We need to start talking about the future of UTAU's engine development before it's too late

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  1. _caustic_

    _caustic_ Very Gay in a Straight Way Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    I was thinking the same thing but didn't know if I couldn't safely say it.
     
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  2. Tomato Hentai

    Tomato Hentai dont call me a veggie Defender of Defoko

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    "prepare for release - 1 week ago"
    OWO
     
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  3. _caustic_

    _caustic_ Very Gay in a Straight Way Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    oh no it uses Jack for audio.

    Jack is basically the Linux audio equivalent of slitting your wrists. I'm gonna cry.
     
  4. partial

    partial Floating in a Fragment somewhere. Retired User Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    Does anyone know what Qtau looks like?
     
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  5. chunter

    chunter Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    JACK isn't that bad once you're used to it, but the sentiment is understood. You don't really need it to do what we do.

    This is all very positive news, to me; as not only will we be able to run the code in a virtual environment by then, I'm sure some of us will keep legacy computers just to run it, and there will be an alternative or 3.
     
  6. KNΞMΛTCS

    KNΞMΛTCS Just an UtaForum user Defender of Defoko

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    Google knows if you look it up. I had it loading up awhile ago (took a lot of screwing with packages) but got nothing out of it. This could be because of aforementioned Jack audio, but what I noticed was there was no voice selection in the related drop-down box. I want to give it another shot next time I remember my laptop.
     
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  7. CarrotJuice

    CarrotJuice Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    eyo just an idea but you don't necessarily need access to source code to use the Desktop app converter by microsoft to convert the .exe from utau to an APPX(?) for UWP deployment in the windows store, it'll mean it still has the same code base but im sure itll last longer in the UWP "container" so to speak.

    idk just an idea don't roast me :smile:
     
  8. Arissa

    Arissa Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    Lol, did you try googling it by images?
     
  9. VocAddict

    VocAddict Voice Within Us Defender of Defoko

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    I'm not sure if this will work but I'll give it a try when I get all these prerequisites to download. though it will be nice if someone gets it to work before me lol
     
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  10. CarrotJuice

    CarrotJuice Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    You mean UWP conversion??, if you can do it thats great! i dont have time to work on something like that atm because of work and life but if you are havin trouble im gonna get round to converting it eventually and i have experience converting win32 apps to UWP anyway :smile: but
    itll just take a while

    http://www.windowscentral.com/how-c...niversal-windows-platform-apps-desktop-bridge

    ^ highly recommend this btw
     
  11. VocAddict

    VocAddict Voice Within Us Defender of Defoko

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    So, after some trial and error, I was able to convert UTAU into a UWP application. Though I wasn't able to convert the installer as yet (the BaseImage is still downloading), I managed to convert a fresh install of UTAU to a UWP app.

    Some things to note:

    1. The converter said that it made the .APPX for a x86 processor architecture. I haven't tested it on a 32-bit system yet but it should run.
    2. I had to manually make a certificate/signature in order to install it (Windows would not allow you to install a non-trusted or signed application), so if I you decide to install it, you'll need to add the certificate to a trusted store.
    3. This .APPX can only run on 10.0.14393.0 (Anniversary Update) and higher (Creator's Update). This is because the SDK I have downloaded is for my current of version of Windows and until I install Visual Basic or figure out a way to reduce the minimum OS requirement, this can only work on Windows 10 Anniversary Update and above. Trying to install it on a lower OS (which includes Windows 8 and 8.1) will give you an error about not meeting the prerequisite requirements.
    4. I don't have a fresh PC to install this so I'm not sure if this can be run without changing the locale to Japanese (though I'm assuming it will still be required).
    5. I am also assuming that the all prerequisites must be installed in order for the program to actually run.

    Currently, the application is running in sandbox mode so it isn't saving any data directly to the folder it's installed in (the program basically does a completely fresh run whenever it is opened as if it's opening for the first time). Any voicebanks, plugins, etc. needs to be installed by dragging the .ZIP or .UAR into the open window where it will save in the AppData folder (which seems to be the only way anything "saves").

    UTAU works as it should. The only problem I've encountered with this version of the app is when you close it, you get this error (even when it is running in elevated mode).

    UTAU_UWP_Error.png

    I believe this is due to the fact of that it is running in sandbox mode and doesn't allow any direct saving to the installed file system.

    When I get the BaseImage to download, I'll fiddle around with the conversion for the installer and see if it yields different results.

    As for now, I honestly believe there's no point of using this but we will see.
     
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  12. _caustic_

    _caustic_ Very Gay in a Straight Way Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    What is the point of converting it to a UWP app?
    You can't put it in the windows store if you aren't the developer.

    Converting it does nothing to the actual application so regardless it will be exactly the same.
     
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  13. VocAddict

    VocAddict Voice Within Us Defender of Defoko

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    I agree. There's really no point since it all it does is allow you to run UTAU as a "metro" app.

    You can distribute it without the windows store though that sounds like copyright infringements right there
     
  14. CarrotJuice

    CarrotJuice Ruko's Ruffians Defender of Defoko

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    why not? its not a practical solution but its interesting to see if its possible
     
  15. _caustic_

    _caustic_ Very Gay in a Straight Way Supporter Defender of Defoko

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    It doesn't fix any problems so it's not really any sort of solution.
     
  16. HixaiU

    HixaiU Teto's Territory Defender of Defoko

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    I tried looking up images because I was curious but all I got was this
    [​IMG]
     
  17. KNΞMΛTCS

    KNΞMΛTCS Just an UtaForum user Defender of Defoko

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    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Arissa

    Arissa Ritsu's Renegades Defender of Defoko

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    Weird. I got the interface of the actual program
     
  19. HixaiU

    HixaiU Teto's Territory Defender of Defoko

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    so its basically like a clone just minimalist? Thats the vibe I get here
     
  20. KNΞMΛTCS

    KNΞMΛTCS Just an UtaForum user Defender of Defoko

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    Yep, a clone but with Vocaloid style tuning (which isn't implemented yet because the default engine - a HMM based one - doesn't support them).
     
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