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[eadie]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0kQ0n0dQEwU
I don't know if vocaroo is the place to post but I did it anyways
hi I made an Utau song today. I don't really know how to do this stuff whoops but hey it's me I made the voice whoo. please help me
if there are any good guides for beginners on how to actually make it sound good, or if anyone has any tips, please share!

 

[ReticentResolve]

Well, the timing seems fine.

Be sure to select all notes, right click, and choose region property,then clear out any numbers in preutterance, overlap, consonant velocity, and STP. (This helps my utau at least)

And just in case you need help otoing, this is a really good tutorial: http://utaforum.net/resources/arpasing-vb-tutorial.279/ (Just scroll down to where all the pictures of the otos are)

It's technically for arpasing, but the rules generally apply to japanese phonemes as well.

Short of that, the only thing I can say is it really relies on what microphone you have, but that's not really helpful advice. :/

Edit: Forgot to add stuff about resamplers. Really simple, when you're opening a ust, there will be options for Tool 1 (Append) and Tool 2 (Resample).

I'm not going to go into a whole bunch of details, because I don't want to confuse you. So for now, just download the file here: https://utaforum.net/threads/moresampler-0-8-4-download.19264/

and pick Moresampler.exe for both of them. And later when you know more about what you're doing, you can find others to use as well.

 

[eadie]

Well, the timing seems fine.

Be sure to select all notes, right click, and choose region property,then clear out any numbers in preutterance, overlap, consonant velocity, and STP. (This helps my utau at least)

And just in case you need help otoing, this is a really good tutorial: http://utaforum.net/resources/arpasing-vb-tutorial.279/ (Just scroll down to where all the pictures of the otos are)

It's technically for arpasing, but the rules generally apply to japanese phonemes as well.

Short of that, the only thing I can say is it really relies on what microphone you have, but that's not really helpful advice. :/

Edit: Forgot to add stuff about resamplers. Really simple, when you're opening a ust, there will be options for Tool 1 (Append) and Tool 2 (Resample).

I'm not going to go into a whole bunch of details, because I don't want to confuse you. So for now, just download the file here: https://utaforum.net/threads/moresampler-0-8-4-download.19264/

and pick Moresampler.exe for both of them. And later when you know more about what you're doing, you can find others to use as well.

Thank you so much!! I'm sure these will definitely all come in handy. I appreciate it, thank you!

 

[Kiyoteru]

I don't know if vocaroo is the place to post but I did it anyways

I recommend using clyp.it instead of vocaroo, which preserves the quality better. While both websites apply some processing to make the files smaller, clyp is much less noticeable than vocaroo.

Be sure to select all notes, right click, and choose region property,then clear out any numbers in preutterance, overlap, consonant velocity, and STP.

After you do this, make sure to also press the RESET and P2P3 buttons as well.

P2P3 and P1P4 are the same in terms of envelope shape, with only the exact placement of the points being different. This is only important if you plan to edit the envelopes in detail. However, for general usage, both will sound the same. Crossfading is necessary to blend the overlaps between the notes.

And just in case you need help otoing, this is a really good tutorial:

Thanks for sharing my guide!

For OTOing, you may want to refer to this guide as well: https://utaforum.net/resources/cv-otoing-guide.269/
It includes a detailed explanation of the OTO windows, which will be helpful if you're not 100% familiar with it yet. The OTOing instructions are also specifically geared towards CV Japanese voicebanks. However, I will be editing a section soon. Please check the discussion page for more
updated information: https://utaforum.net/threads/cv-otoing-guide.14768/

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Other than that, I think the next most important thing to consider is mixing. If you are matching up the UTAU vocals and the instrumental together using Audacity, I recommend using proper music software. There are many options available, and you can find a list of free software in this resource: https://utaforum.net/resources/songwriting-resources.181/
The resource also contains many effects that you can use while mixing. The most important ones for basic vocal mixing are compression, equalization, and reverb. Compression is usually not necessary for UTAU vocals, and is more common when mixing human vocals. You can read about equalization here: https://utaforum.net/resources/mixing-tutorial-equalization.48/
As for reverb, you'll want to add just a slight amount, enough to hear the effect and make it blend with the song, but not so much that it sounds like your UTAU is deep inside a cave.
There are various mixing guides linked here: https://utaforum.net/resources/music-theory-mixing-musicianship-resources.141/
Or you could do a google search for "how to mix vocals" and find advice that you can apply to UTAU. Good luck with your future work!

 

[eadie]

I recommend using clyp.it instead of vocaroo, which preserves the quality better. While both websites apply some processing to make the files smaller, clyp is much less noticeable than vocaroo.



After you do this, make sure to also press the RESET and P2P3 buttons as well.
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P2P3 and P1P4 are the same in terms of envelope shape, with only the exact placement of the points being different. This is only important if you plan to edit the envelopes in detail. However, for general usage, both will sound the same. Crossfading is necessary to blend the overlaps between the notes.


Thanks for sharing my guide!

For OTOing, you may want to refer to this guide as well: https://utaforum.net/resources/cv-otoing-guide.269/
It includes a detailed explanation of the OTO windows, which will be helpful if you're not 100% familiar with it yet. The OTOing instructions are also specifically geared towards CV Japanese voicebanks. However, I will be editing a section soon. Please check the discussion page for more
updated information: https://utaforum.net/threads/cv-otoing-guide.14768/

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Other than that, I think the next most important thing to consider is mixing. If you are matching up the UTAU vocals and the instrumental together using Audacity, I recommend using proper music software. There are many options available, and you can find a list of free software in this resource: https://utaforum.net/resources/songwriting-resources.181/
The resource also contains many effects that you can use while mixing. The most important ones for basic vocal mixing are compression, equalization, and reverb. Compression is usually not necessary for UTAU vocals, and is more common when mixing human vocals. You can read about equalization here: https://utaforum.net/resources/mixing-tutorial-equalization.48/
As for reverb, you'll want to add just a slight amount, enough to hear the effect and make it blend with the song, but not so much that it sounds like your UTAU is deep inside a cave.
There are various mixing guides linked here: https://utaforum.net/resources/music-theory-mixing-musicianship-resources.141/
Or you could do a google search for "how to mix vocals" and find advice that you can apply to UTAU. Good luck with your future work!

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Ohh thank you so much! This is a lot of information- but all very useful!
Again, tyvm!! Hopefully I'll be able to use all of this to make some good songs!